My Father's Time-Line 1920-1929 | 1930-1939 | 1940-1946 -
Other Time Lines - Arnold-Irby-Perry | Blaschko | Eaton | Pereira (Perry) Cardozo | Shaughnessy | Wilson
The Story Begins
Newton Richard Begnal/Young, b. 16 Jul 1924, San Francisco, (parents Clifford Franklin Begnal & Thelma Ferne Perry), marries Patricia Victoria Arnold, 28 Mar 1942, Yuma AZ
The 1930, 9 Apr census, Thelma, sons Clifford A & Richard N Begnal are indexed as Benesh, living with a Robert J. Benesh, Living at 1377 Hayes St. San Francisco, CA (
Note: Richard was born as Begnal, school records 9 Sep 1930, show Richard N. Young, parents Earl Young (father), Mrs E. Rose (mother) & step-father William Irby. I know who William Irby is, not Earl Young or Mrs. E. Rose, and why on Richard's school records do not show his parents as Thelma Ferne Perry & Clifford Franklin Begnal. First listed address per school records as 1054 25th St. which should map to 1054 West 25th St., San Pedro.
1941, 18 Nov - Newton Richard Young, applies for SS Card, age 17 last birthday (17 yrs 4 mos), Present Employer - Jefferson High School, Parents Clifford F. Young and Thelma Fern Perry, Living at 118 1/2 W 42 St. Los Angeles, CA
Note: Per Richard's 1941 SS-5 Application Richard appears to have a problem writing Newton as his Given name, and his Father is listed as Young, and Thelma as Perry, which Richard may not know Clifford's last name is Begnal, not Young. I have no other record other than Richard's birth certificate showing born as Newton Richard Begnal, prior to 28 Mar 1942, marriage record
1942, 28 Mar - my Father is listed as Richard N. Begnal, married to Patricia V. Arnold, witnessed by W.L. Irby, Thelma Fern Irby & Mildred Miller. Address on the Marriage Certificate is 138 1/2 East 53rd Los Angeles, CA. Presuming their residence.
1942, 24 Jul - Richard N. Young (18) enlists in the Army, 130th Ordnance Battalion, stationed at Camp Polk, LA, Technician 5th Grade, Parts Clerk.
1942, 28 Oct - Anna Laura Ferne Begnal, at the Bixby Knolls Maternity Hospital, located 3747 Atlantic Avenue in the Bixby Knolls section of Long Beach, which is between Wardlow Rd and Del Amo Blvd. Born to Patricia Victoria Arnold, age 16, Richard, a Private in Army (18 yrs 3 mos). Living at 1424 W. 255th St. Harbor City, CA. So Richard may already have been at Camp Polk, when Anna Laura was born.
However, per Richard's Enlistment Record he is of the 130th Ordnance Battalion, Stationed at Camp Polk, LA, (1941 Photo of Camp Polk, LA) a Technician 5th Grade, Parts Clerk, Separated Camp Beale, CA 13 Nov 1944. I do not know when Richard left for Camp Polk in 1942/1943.
Note: Patricia Arnold, b. 4 Apr 1928, on 28 Oct 1942, was 14 yrs, 6 mos & 24 days old. Meaning she became pregnant at age 13, in Feb 1942. And when Richard married Patricia on 28 Mar 1942, Patricia was 13 yrs, 11 mos, 24 days old. Which the Marriage License does not state either's age. And possibly why Richard & Patricia married in AZ. Also Richard was not in the Army as of 28 Mar, and there is an Army base in Yuma, the Yuma Proving Ground. When I was in the Marines, I was stationed at the Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS), Yuma AZ.
1944, 13 Nov after 2 yrs 3 mos 20 days, Richard is discharged from the Army, and his enlistment record states he was Single, however Richard & Patricia divorce 6 Jul 1945, Los Angeles.
1945, 24 Jan - Susan Marie came into the world, Patricia V. nee Arnold Begnal, is 16 yrs, 9 mos & 16 days old, becoming pregnant in Apr 1944. Richard N. Begnal Young, is stationed at Comp Polk, LA
And then the Affidavit, 1 Jun 1945, that Pansy swears neither Anna Laura Begnal and Susan Marie Begnal, that Richard Newton Begnal is not the father of either minor children.
6 Jul 1945, Patricia & Richard are divorced
1946, 9 Sep - Richard N. Young marries June Elsie Wilson
The above sure puts a different spin on things & perspective...especially the ages of Patricia, unless she was older, but we have her birth record 4 Apr 1928, Orange County, mother's maiden name Deseran, and it lists Pansy Victoria Arnold.
It is possible that Richard impregnated Pansy before marrying, why they married, went into the Army, was in LA when Anna Laura was born, however unless Richard came home on leave from Louisiana in Apr 1944, or Patricia went to Louisiana, the chances are slim to none Richard was your Father too. Which we know about the adoption.
The following are additional time line events, not necessary to read....I used it to help me put the Story above together....Doc
1920 census Elizabeth Begnall, age 36 (1884) widow, with son Clifford (16), living at 3554a 20th St. San Francisco, CA
1923 - SF City Directory - Mrs. Elizabeth Begnal, Salswn, 40 7th St. SF
1923, 28 May - Clifford Anthony Begnal, born, living at 503 Capp St. San Francisco, CA. Parents Clifford Franklin Begnal and Thelma Ferne Perry (Pereira Cardozo).
1924, 16 Jul - Newton Richard Begnal, born, living at 1201 Buchanan St. San Francisco, CA. Parents Clifford Franklin Begnal and Thelma Ferne Perry (Pereira Cardozo).
1925 – 1927 - No City Directories for Saratoga Springs, NY
1927 - Elizabeth nee Shaughnessy Begnal - 431 Arguello Blvd. San Francisco, CA - per CA Voters Regs.
1928, 4 May - Clifford F. Begnal, marries Wilma Florence Gates
1928 - Clifford F. Begnal - 431 Arguello Blvd. San Francisco, CA - Chauffer - per CA Voters Regs. Mrs. Elizabeth Begnal same address per SF-CD
1929 - Mrs. Elizabeth Begnal, 431 Arguello Blvd. San Francisco, CA (across from Roosevelt Middle School built in 1930) - also C F Begnal, Police h 120 Laidley St., per the Crocker-Langley San Francisco City Directory - added 30 Jul 2012
1930, 9 Apr - Thelma F. Benesh/Benion Begnal, (Thelma Benesh is Thelma Ferne Perry), living with my father Richard N. & uncle Clifford at 1377 Hayes St. San Francisco, CA - image on file (it has taken 16 years to find Thelma with Sons in the 1930 census, on 30 Aug 2012)
Name: Robert J Benesh [Robert J Benion]
Birth Year: abt 1900
Home in 1930: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Thelma F Benesh
Father's Birthplace: France
Mother's Birthplace: France
Occupation: Salesman Chain Grocery
Robert J Benesh, 30
Thelma F Benesh, 23, [Turlough F Benion] b. abt. 1907, ME
Clifford G Benesh, 6, b. abt. 1924, CA
[Winferd G Benesh]
[Clifford G Benion]
Richard N Benesh, 5, b. abt. 1925, CA
[Dehart R Benesh]
[Richard N Benion]
Living at: 1377 Hayes St
Notes: Benesh Name Meaning - Americanized spelling of Czech and Slovak Beneš (see Benes) or German Benesch = Germanized spelling of Czech Beneš (see Benes) occurring chiefly in Austria and eastern Germany.
1930, 25 Apr census - Peter & Victoria Deseran, daughter Mildred V. Arnold (age 20 divorced), grand-daug. Pansy V. Arnold (age 2), 21705 Amelia Ave. Dominguez/San Pedro, LA Co., CA. Occupation Store Keeper, General Store. On file the 22 Mar 1900 passenger list, 1900, 1910 & 1920 census.
1930 to 1949 - Elizabeth nee Shaughnessy Begnal, 402 2nd Ave. SF - per CA Voters Regs. - Shaughnessy Timeline
1930 - indexed as Clifford Bignen, Wilma, living at 320 A 2nd Ave. San Francisco, CA (on file)
1930 - 9 Sep - 30 Jan 1942 - Richard N. Young attends school (San Pedro) Mother as Mrs. E. Rose and father Earl Young, Step-Father William Irby and below the link to the records, schools and home addresses.
Schools Attended and their addressees
Home Addressees per school records1930-1942
Army Record 1941-1944
1931, 10 Feb - Shots Rang out - Thelma Benesch, res. 848 West Hamilton Ave., San Pedro, CA, witnessed a double shooting.
(Thelma Benesch is Thelma Ferne Perry) Deseran's resided at 329 Gertruda St. Redondo Beach, CA, Deseran's Grocery Store located at 21968 So. Main St. believed to be Carson, CA
1932- Clifford Begnal (Wilma) laborer, h 649 Avalon Av - Mrs. Eliz Begnal, h 405 2nd Av, per the Polk's Crocker-Langley San Francisco City Directory
1934-1944 - Clifford F. Begnal w/Wilma, 211 Aspen Ave. South San Francisco, San Mateo Co. CA - Laborer, per CA Voters Reg. - 1944 - Fireman
1936-37 - Thelma, Richard, Clifford A Begnal Young - age 12/13, Patricia Victoria Arnold age 10/11, with Mildred nee Deseran Arnold Miller, sons Irvan & Fred Miller taken at 117 E. 220th St., Carson CA
1936-37, unknown when
William Lewis Irby, Step-Father comes into the lives of Thelma, Clifford A. &
Newton R./Richard N. Begnal, Young - per the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 -
William L. Irby, living at 47 N Boylston, Los Angeles, CA, 20 miles from 117 E.
220th St., Carson, CA, first record showing William Irby & Thelma, is the
Voters Registration. William Irby is listed as a Soldier in 1936
1938 - Clifford F. Begnal w/Wilma, 211 Aspen Ave. South San Francisco, San Mateo Co. CA
1939-1949 - Elizabeth Begnal, 402 2nd Ave. SF
1940-44 - Clifford F. Begnal w/Wilma, 211 Aspen Ave. South San Francisco, San Mateo Co. CA - Fireman
1940 - Elizabeth Begnal, 402 2nd Ave. SF
1940, 8 Apr - indexed as Chalfant E Bynel, wife as William F (Wilma F), living at 211 Aspen Ave. South San Francisco, San Mateo Co., CA
1940 - 26 Oct - Clifford Anthony nee Begnal Young, enlists in the Army, Enlistment City: Fort Macarthur, San Pedro
1940 - 16 Sep - 9 Jan 1941 - San Pedro High School - 1001 W. 15th St. San Pedro, CA 90731, home address, maybe 2139 S. Walker Ave. San Pedro, CA
1941 9 Jan - 22 Jun 1941 - San Fernando High, 11133 O'Melveny Ave. San Fernando, CA. 11826 Sheldon St. (San Fernando area) Los Angeles, CA 91352
1941, 10 Sep -30 Jan 1942 - Jefferson High School - 1319 E 41st St. Los Angeles, CA, home address, maybe 1319 E 41st St. Los Angeles, CA
1941, 18 Nov, applied for SS Card Newton Richard Young, age 17 last birthday (17 yrs 4 mos), Present Employer - Jefferson High School, Parents Clifford F. Young and Thelma Fern Perry, 118 1/2 W 42 St. Los Angeles, CA
1942 - Clifford F. Begnal (Laborer), 211 Aspen Ave. South San Francisco, San Mateo Co. CA, wife Wilma F Begnal, 227 California Ave
1942 - CA Voter Reg. lists Thelma F. Irby & William living at 138 1/2 E. 53rd St. Los Angeles Co. note same address 28 Mar 1942 (Richard 17 yrs 8 mos old)
1942, 28 Mar - Richard N. Begnal (17yrs 8 mos) marries Patricia/Panzy Victoria Arnold (15 yrs 11 mos), Yuma AZ, witnesses Thelma, Mildred and William L. Irby, address maybe that of Thelma or Mildred 138 1/2 E. 53rd. St. Los Angeles, CA. Patricia V. Arnold, b. 4 Apr 1926.
1942, 24 Jul, Richard N. nee Begnal Young (18) enlists in the Army, 130th Ordnance Battalion, stationed at Camp Polk, LA, Technician 5th Grade, Parts Clerk. Blood type A
1942, 28 Oct, Anna Laura Ferne Begnal, born to Patricia Victoria Arnold, age 16, Richard, a Private in Army (18 yrs 3 mos).
Living at 1424 W.
255th St. Harbor City, CA. However, my father Richard is in the Army stationed
1944 - Clifford F. Begnal (Fireman) w/Wilma, 227 California Ave. South San Francisco, CA
1944 - CA Voter Reg.
lists Thelma F. Irby & William living at 1467 W. Vernon St. Los Angeles Co.
1944, 13 Nov, Richard N. Young (20 yrs 3 mos) discharged from Army, Camp Beale CA
1945, 24 Jan, Susan
Marie Begnal born, San Pedro, CA, biological father is Edward Anderson (not
1945, 22 May, Richard Begnal, 1467 W. Vernon, Los Angeles, CA. per letter from Edwin R. Cunningham, adopted Susan Marie Begnal, however her father is said to be Edward Anderson.
1945, 6Jul, Richard N. Begnal (20 yrs 11 mos) divorces Patricia Arnold, Los Angeles Co., CA
1946 - CA Voter Reg.
lists Thelma F. Irby & William living at 931 1/2 Parkman Ave. Los Angeles Co.
note address 1947
1946, 9 Sep, Richard N. Young (22 yrs 1 mo) marries June Elsie Wilson my mother, Pasadena CA. unknown address and I do not have their marriage cert.